Matt furrows his brow because honestly it doesn't sound like anything he'd want a part of. He was hoping more for rebellion slash revolution sorts of things. "Hmmm. Not what I was envisioning. I guess I've read and listened to too many books."

He nods a little at that. "Tech isn't really my thing either," he says scratching at his cheek as he considers everything that Ray has said. It definitely sounds as if Ray has some experience with this thing. "How long have you been here, if you don't mind me asking."