"Well, it had certainly resulted in an uptake in business," he responds. He's always slightly uncomfortable with the mention of that take down, but also really proud of the firm, of Karen and of Foggy. Of course, so much had gone wrong after that, but he tries not to focus on that here simply because there's nothing he can do about any of it. "Thank you. We're trying." And not always succeeding, but it's something that they're trying. He smiles a little at her. "You do too."

He takes a deep breath at her question and glances around the room. They're from the same world and though her agenda is a little more global and a little less localized, they've got the same ideas about powers and the responsibilities that come with them. His voice drops low because he hasn't told anyone else this, not here. "Have you heard of the Devil of Hell's Kitchen?"

He hopes that if she has, she understands what the devil is trying to do.